i was in columbus, ohio, an amazing guy there, the mayor of columbus, ohio, a long-term democrat. he's done a deal on columbus's finances. when the crisis hit, he cut as much as he could in the back office. he hadn't cut enough. he went to the business community and said i can cut police service, park services, people that will affect the city or we can have a revenue hike. because he had already done the cuts in the back office and could lay them out, the business community, 100% support add revenue hike. it was an interesting model in one city. it's one city, it's not the country. it's an interesting model. >> that's the workable model. >> i was going to object to what you said, but go back to what michael said. michael, i don't sense the republicans saying they're flexible on rates. they keep saying we can't increase marginal rates, we can't increase marginal rates. donny repeated the warren buffett point which is a great point, and i believe it, small increases and marginal rates don't affect people's ability to work. republicans are concerned they won't get their spending cut